Sad news about Ben Hurst

[Alex Fox]

can we stop with the arguments already? i mean seriously, were like toddlers who wont stop bitching. Greg, really, stop. And please louis, cmon now, get in the right mind set (no that there is really) but please.

[Quexinos]

She wasn't immortalizing his failure she was immortalizing the fact he cheated and lied to so many people.

No she wasn't I had nothing to do with his ED page's creation. I keep on saying this but people will think it was me. It was Valerie Varnes who made it.

I question your authority, because you refuse to stop dicking around with us and sharing things he wanted us to see. If you're such a friend and a "niece" to him, then why aren't you sharing with us? Because we're lower than you? Think of how Ben would view this situation. I wouldn't imagine him being very happy with this.

I kept those secret because he asked me to keep them secret when he was alive. He trusted me on a very high level. He wouldn't have told me these things or shared these things with me if he didn't trust me to keep them secret... The only reason I told people I had stuff from him is because people asked me if he had shared things with me and I didn't want to lie. I kept these things from you guys because he was my friend and because I loved him. I wouldn't do anything to hurt his trust or hurt what we had.

Now he's gone, that's true so there's no point but I haven't revealed them yet because... I'm having a hard time letting go. I'm sorry but once I share all this, I truly have to accept that Ben is gone and I don't think I'm ready to do that. He told me, he told me many times that when he passed away, I could do whatever I wanted with his stories. He wouldn't be mad if I never shared them. I will share them I just... I dunno I guess I can't explain it.

A lot of people don't seem to understand who I lost here This wasn't just the SatAM guy to me. Or the voice over guy. He was one of the best friends I ever had. We had a very special friendship, none like no other that I've ever shared before with anyone. I'm not saying this for pity, I'm saying this because I"m trying to explain it. This wasn't just "oh that sucks that he's gone." This has left me very empty inside. I still cry before I go to sleep at night these days. Maybe I need to get over it, I dunno. But rest assured that if you just give me time here, to really just... mourn what I lost, I will share with you what I have. Thanks.

EDIT:
And FYI it's not even that much. He didn't like give me a huge script or anything, just some ideas he had.

[chief]

I don't like to get involved in stuff here, really I try to stay out of any fighting etc on SMS. However I feel I should mention a few things.

Did Nique make his ED? No. That would be like accusing me of making his ED because the original page was created by some members of FUS. Granted I didn't own the site then but still. Nique did not create anything on the ED nor was it her idea.

As for the freaking out on Retro etc..Actually it was other members who started most of that. As well as the SEGA boards, she didn't even know what was going on there in till I pointed it out to her.


I don't normally jump in and defend people on other boards, but some of the stuff here, Greg, is just stupid. especially in this topic. Now I realize that a mod has already stepped in with his bit and good. I hope that brings a end to it. I just thought I should mention that the crap started on other boards wasn't just Nique, or even started by her.

As for Ben's notes? He asked her to keep them to herself and she did. Big woopie. They were friends.

Anyways as a personal request I hope any thing else on these matters gets solved in other topics or PM's. Please don't make a mod here have to lock a memorial topic.

[Gin93]

She wasn't immortalizing his failure she was immortalizing the fact he cheated and lied to so many people.

No she wasn't I had nothing to do with his ED page's creation. I keep on saying this but people will think it was me. It was Valerie Varnes who made it.

I question your authority, because you refuse to stop dicking around with us and sharing things he wanted us to see. If you're such a friend and a "niece" to him, then why aren't you sharing with us? Because we're lower than you? Think of how Ben would view this situation. I wouldn't imagine him being very happy with this.

I kept those secret because he asked me to keep them secret when he was alive. He trusted me on a very high level. He wouldn't have told me these things or shared these things with me if he didn't trust me to keep them secret... The only reason I told people I had stuff from him is because people asked me if he had shared things with me and I didn't want to lie. I kept these things from you guys because he was my friend and because I loved him. I wouldn't do anything to hurt his trust or hurt what we had.

Now he's gone, that's true so there's no point but I haven't revealed them yet because... I'm having a hard time letting go. I'm sorry but once I share all this, I truly have to accept that Ben is gone and I don't think I'm ready to do that. He told me, he told me many times that when he passed away, I could do whatever I wanted with his stories. He wouldn't be mad if I never shared them. I will share them I just... I dunno I guess I can't explain it.

A lot of people don't seem to understand who I lost here This wasn't just the SatAM guy to me. Or the voice over guy. He was one of the best friends I ever had. We had a very special friendship, none like no other that I've ever shared before with anyone. I'm not saying this for pity, I'm saying this because I"m trying to explain it. This wasn't just "oh that sucks that he's gone." This has left me very empty inside. I still cry before I go to sleep at night these days. Maybe I need to get over it, I dunno. But rest assured that if you just give me time here, to really just... mourn what I lost, I will share with you what I have. Thanks.

EDIT:
And FYI it's not even that much. He didn't like give me a huge script or anything, just some ideas he had.

oh.............sorry

[Vulpes bicaudata]

A lot of people don't seem to understand who I lost here This wasn't just the SatAM guy to me. Or the voice over guy. He was one of the best friends I ever had. We had a very special friendship, none like no other that I've ever shared before with anyone. I'm not saying this for pity, I'm saying this because I"m trying to explain it. This wasn't just "oh that sucks that he's gone." This has left me very empty inside. I still cry before I go to sleep at night these days. Maybe I need to get over it, I dunno. But rest assured that if you just give me time here, to really just... mourn what I lost, I will share with you what I have. Thanks.

I understand perfectly. People cope in different ways, and how you do it is up to you. Now, if it was me, I would've been making jokes about it within a day, but I'm like a Vulcan or something. I don't expect other people to immediately recover from a tragic loss. You should do whatever you feel is best, even if that means the fans have to wait a few months or years to get a little more information.

[PorpoiseMuffins]

i have to apologize for being the first to call louis out, even though i said it wasnt the time and place.

so to everyone, i apologize

Don't apologize... ever... for what you did. You did good, questioning his ideology. So if anyone disagrees with louis automatically means we aren't true Sat Am fans?

No, not at all. This has nothing to do with agreeing or disagreeing with Louis. This is about keeping things civil. For the record, I don't agree with him, but there's no sense in arguing about it, especially here.

Did Nique make his ED? No. That would be like accusing me of making his ED because the original page was created by some members of FUS. Granted I didn't own the site then but still. Nique did not create anything on the ED nor was it her idea.

I don't think she owned FUS at the time, either. It absolutely wasn't any of her doing.


I'm sure Sonique will share with everyone when she's good and ready. Making that the focus of this right now seems in poor taste to me. I also suspect that more will come her way in the coming months that she'll be able to share when she feels comfortable with it. For now, let's be considerate of the situation and respectful of Ben.


Also, Thony! How cool is it to see you on here again!? How have you been?

[SpeedingHedgehog]

I understand perfectly. People cope in different ways, and how you do it is up to you. Now, if it was me, I would've been making jokes about it within a day, but I'm like a Vulcan or something

But humor is illogical!

[Vulpes bicaudata]

It's not illogical to ENJOY humor...

"Take my Worf! Please!"

[DeborahHedgehog]

I kept those secret because he asked me to keep them secret when he was alive. He trusted me on a very high level. He wouldn't have told me these things or shared these things with me if he didn't trust me to keep them secret... The only reason I told people I had stuff from him is because people asked me if he had shared things with me and I didn't want to lie. I kept these things from you guys because he was my friend and because I loved him. I wouldn't do anything to hurt his trust or hurt what we had.

Now he's gone, that's true so there's no point but I haven't revealed them yet because... I'm having a hard time letting go. I'm sorry but once I share all this, I truly have to accept that Ben is gone and I don't think I'm ready to do that. He told me, he told me many times that when he passed away, I could do whatever I wanted with his stories. He wouldn't be mad if I never shared them. I will share them I just... I dunno I guess I can't explain it.

A lot of people don't seem to understand who I lost here This wasn't just the SatAM guy to me. Or the voice over guy. He was one of the best friends I ever had. We had a very special friendship, none like no other that I've ever shared before with anyone. I'm not saying this for pity, I'm saying this because I"m trying to explain it. This wasn't just "oh that sucks that he's gone." This has left me very empty inside. I still cry before I go to sleep at night these days. Maybe I need to get over it, I dunno. But rest assured that if you just give me time here, to really just... mourn what I lost, I will share with you what I have. Thanks.

EDIT:
And FYI it's not even that much. He didn't like give me a huge script or anything, just some ideas he had.

It's okay, I think people really do need to stay off your back and give you some time to mourn. I know how you feel. I lost my own dad this year, and I never even got to go to his funeral, but I had time to get over it, and I am now mostly fine. I miss him terribly, though.

Don't let people on here give you a hard time, okay? I think we are all mourning the passing of Ben Hurst in our own ways, and some people just come off more hostile than others, I think. We should all keep ourselves away from the petty bickering at least in this thread to show respect not only to Ben but to you as well, since you were so close to him. That's not too much to ask of everyone, now is it? Take care of yourself, and everything's gonna be okay. RIP, Ben Hurst, you are dearly missed.

[Alex Fox]

I kept those secret because he asked me to keep them secret when he was alive. He trusted me on a very high level. He wouldn't have told me these things or shared these things with me if he didn't trust me to keep them secret... The only reason I told people I had stuff from him is because people asked me if he had shared things with me and I didn't want to lie. I kept these things from you guys because he was my friend and because I loved him. I wouldn't do anything to hurt his trust or hurt what we had.

Now he's gone, that's true so there's no point but I haven't revealed them yet because... I'm having a hard time letting go. I'm sorry but once I share all this, I truly have to accept that Ben is gone and I don't think I'm ready to do that. He told me, he told me many times that when he passed away, I could do whatever I wanted with his stories. He wouldn't be mad if I never shared them. I will share them I just... I dunno I guess I can't explain it.

A lot of people don't seem to understand who I lost here This wasn't just the SatAM guy to me. Or the voice over guy. He was one of the best friends I ever had. We had a very special friendship, none like no other that I've ever shared before with anyone. I'm not saying this for pity, I'm saying this because I"m trying to explain it. This wasn't just "oh that sucks that he's gone." This has left me very empty inside. I still cry before I go to sleep at night these days. Maybe I need to get over it, I dunno. But rest assured that if you just give me time here, to really just... mourn what I lost, I will share with you what I have. Thanks.

EDIT:
And FYI it's not even that much. He didn't like give me a huge script or anything, just some ideas he had.

so sorry you have to see us fight, especially here, maybe im not one to talk, but i understand why you kept secrets from us. they were youre best friends secrets, thats something of the utmost importance. no ones gonna rush your mourning of him, and if they do then they are truly heartless.
im sure that what he shared with you is something great, knowing it was Ben, but when youre ready to share it with us, then drop us a pm, or not. for now i suggest to everyone that we take a break from this thread, and if needed, this forum. im sorry if im not helping, im just trying to make a point, though i might have lost it in here somewhere. but yeah, guys, lets leave this thread alone for now, yeah? for Quexinos.

take care, and stay safe, my friends. peace.

[stevray98]

y'know.......i wrote a letter for him but i never sent it because i couldn't find his address.........now it's just collecting dust in a box of important things 'a mine..................he was probably the best writer ever he changed saturday morning cartoons he didn't have a bunch of sappy morals in every single episode that took away from the plot....he made the best cartoon of all time.........he will be missed *takes off hat in memorial*.......

this is for you Ben in the great big Knothole Village in the sky

dona nobis pacem............give us peace

*sniff* WE'LL MISS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Neon Black]

Also, Thony! How cool is it to see you on here again!? How have you been?

I was thinking this too Very cool to see your face here again!!

[roxannihilation]

I can't believe I missed this. I haven't been on in months and I was just checking the wiki and I couldn't believe what I read. I instantly came here, just now. He was 59, he's the same age as my Dad, which is striking me kinda hard.

It's so difficult to believe. He's done so much for the Sonic community and all of us. The man was truly an incredible writer. A dedicated one.

He's going to be very missed. I still can't believe it.

[DeborahHedgehog]

I can't believe I missed this. I haven't been on in months and I was just checking the wiki and I couldn't believe what I read. I instantly came here, just now. He was 59, he's the same age as my Dad, which is striking me kinda hard.

It's so difficult to believe. He's done so much for the Sonic community and all of us. The man was truly an incredible writer. A dedicated one.

He's going to be very missed. I still can't believe it.

Yeah, sorry Roxy.

I didn't want to be the one to break it to you.

[party_shaker]

I bet the jews did this...