Some of Ben's ideas

[PorpoiseMuffins]

hold on..Nicole a little girl? a friend of sally?

you mean tben was thinking of bringing the nicole lynx thing into session 3?

This was long before Archie did it, though. Ben never even read the comics!

[stevray98]

not too shabby that's what i call story telling

it''s a shame there's no way to know all the ins and outs of what was going to happen..........

[Saber16]

I just thought it'd be nice if we kept it on the two SatAM sites and if people wanted to comment they'd have to sign up. That way the communities will get bigger, I hope

... Nique, you diabolical genius, you!

[RingtailedFox]

what about new sonic sites like mine? might give them a chance to start up and grow...

[hyper ultra tails]

I just thought it'd be nice if we kept it on the two SatAM sites and if people wanted to comment they'd have to sign up. That way the communities will get bigger, I hope

... Nique, you diabolical genius, you!

hey....its a ok plan...though i think it whould be best if members joined on there own.

but lets not hit Helmasaur King's helmet

(a boss from zelda a link to the past) so fast that this plan becomes so big and we get carried away!

[Gryffindor-Sword]

You do know that this is an idea that NO SatAM fan can pass up on any Season 3 project. I am extremely shocked about this and this is a much better idea than what Archie had done. I'm not sure how one would react when this info hits another fan project, and I'm tempted (correction would love) to use this idea in my Season 3 'fic. That is still a long ways off and it's a much better idea than what I would have originally planned.

[Adamis]

These plans are surprisingly great ! I was expecting a line about Knuckles though.

May I talk about it on my french Sonic blog? I know there are some french SatAM fans out there. I will not copy the content there, just tell "hey, want some of Ben's plans? Go there!", something like that.

[Vulpes bicaudata]

Well, I'm not particularly impressed.

(stomps off cursing all things melodramatic)

[John Roberts]

I just love the Nicole back story. It's very interesting.

Well, I'm not particularly impressed.

(stomps off cursing all things melodramatic)

Yes, yes you have said that twice now, and still nobody cares.

[Vulpes bicaudata]

Your point being?

[Adamis]

Saying it once is enough, maybe?

C'est unimpressif.

That's not good french. "Unimpressif" doesn't exist in french, you should have said "C'est peu impressionnant" or "Ce n'est pas impressionnant".

[E-122 Psi]

If I can say this in an inoffensive and solely opinion based manner, I'm not that big on these concepts either. NICOLE's 'infant's brain in a jar' concept just comes off as way to grim a concept. Seriously after reading some of the concepts from darker portrayals like the two comic series and other somewhat creepy fan media on sites like DA, that's actually one of the most macebre and distressing story concepts I've ever heard for a Sonic story.

I get Hurst wanted Robotnik to be essentially 'evil personalified' but I think there is a limit to what portrayal of 'evil' you can display in a kids show, you can make disgusting Complete Monsters but you can't have them doing stuff like raping women, killing babies and hacking people to death, the idea of him essentially killing a child's body and placing it's brain in a mechanical trophy of sorts and then torturing it by essentially turning parts of it on and off all for the sheer sadistic kick of it I think kinda crosses the line (especially abiding by the fact she is a friend of Sally's and thus likely only a five year old infant like her).

The story method NICOLE was placed in Sally's possession doesn't seem that well devised either. You have to abide by the idea that Robotnik was incredibly unsavvy (in contrast to his first season counterpart) to believe he could grant NICOLE so much power and then not expect reprecussions out of it (then again he did basically the same to Snively), though I admit this may be realistic for a guy that unstable and sadistic.

One of the reasons I liked SatAm was because it was one of the few interpretations that could balance 'dark' concepts well and lightly enfused it with whimsical elements to make a merely somewhat atmospheric family adventure, so it's kinda a shame for me that it was ultimately going to end up akin to other projects like Sonic X and Archie where it doesn't seem quite sure whether it was working with a goofy kids cartoon or an R rated sci fi horror (certain revisions in Season Two like the 'living death' robotocizer status (explained by perfectly stable old toughie Uncle Chuck no less) could be a hint to this evolution).

I get a few people like the 'darker' concepts however and since it is very early drafts perhaps such critisms are unfair, but there's just my two cents.

Some of the other elements take interest however, interesting how Rotor seems to get more significant mentioning while Sally and Bunnie are hardly refered to at all, especially considering the near opposite development of Sal and Rotor in Season Two. Sonic maturing a little sounds like a good concept too.

[Vulpes bicaudata]

That's not good french. "Unimpressif" doesn't exist in french, you should have said "C'est peu impressionnant" or "Ce n'est pas impressionnant".

Hey, it's not my fault my high school French teacher was so incompetent she thought tic-tac-toe was a useful linguistic exercise.

[Alex Fox]

this story sound amazing, i was really into it when reading. NICOLE being a living breathing creature? thats something that couldve caught you off guard. like where you find out that the hero turned out to be your dad or something of that calibur. that should be part of a forgotten part of their history.

Your point being?

what do you mean "your point being"? one time is enough, if you dont like it, thats cool, but dont bring it up again. what, you trying to prove something?

[Quexinos]

I don't think anyone will be offended if someone doesn't like these ideas. I mean a lot of people don't like the Mobius is Earth thing, but hey it's what would have happened. Besides who knows how many of these ideas would have come through in the end? As Ben always said, writing is rewriting, so there's always a chance the ideas would have changed

As for other sites showing these, I think for now the SatAM sites should just be linked to. I think that'd be the best way to go about it.